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Small Online Businesses Beware of Scammers

[Recipients of these messages originating from gmail.com addresses can report these abuses to abuse@google.com or mail-support@google.com which may result in the termination of their account]

As I’ve mentioned before, we have a small retail business where we sell hobby-related products through a website. It’s not a big money-maker, but it does offer some nice additional income.

Having a small business presence on the internet opens you up as a potential victim for various types of scam artists who pretend to want to do business with you. These scams will usually be in the form of e-mail messages that indicate that the sender wants to purchase something from your company.

We’ve never received any telephone calls from scam artists even though our telephone number is available on our web site, but I suppose it is possible that some other small businesses have been contacted over the phone by scammers.

The latest scam e-mail we received recently was from someone claiming that his name was ‘Paul Stuggart’ who claimed that he wanted to place an order on our site. Here is the e-mail that was received:

From: Paul Stuggart [paulstuggart@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: Order Enquiry

Hello, I want to place an order in your store,Let me know if you ship to Australia method of payment will be credit card,I will be very glad if you can assist me with the order, I will await your prompt response as soon as you received this mail. I will be happy if you treat this email with good concern Warmest Regards PAUL STUGGART

The first tip off is that this scam artist is using a G-Mail account for his e-mail. G-Mail is a free e-mail service similar to those offered by Yahoo! and Hotmail, and you will not usually see legitimate business people using these types of free services for their business-related e-mail.

Secondly, there is no reason for him to be e-mailing us to tell us he wants to order something from our site. We do indicate on our site that we ship to Australia, and he could have simply placed his order online if he wanted to.

Thirdly, you may notice that the wording of the message is a bit peculiar. Phrases like ‘I will be very glad if you can assist me’ and ‘I will await your prompt response’ are the types of phrases that are often used by these scam artists, particularly the notorious Nigerian ‘419’ scam artists.

The line at the end where he writes ‘I will be happy if you treat this email with good concern’ really seals the deal, and marks the sender as a scam artist with almost absolute certainty. This is very typical of the language these guys use all the time.

I decided to play along and respond to his message, and let him know that we do indeed ship to Australia and asked him how I could help him. This was his response:

From:    paul stuggart [paulstuggart@gmail.com]
Sent:    Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject:    Re: Order Enquiry

Hello,

  Thank for your fast response and i want you to know that i came
across your store information via a friend and here is what i will
like to order for,

[Name of product removed]
qty:100

I will like you to get back to me with the total cost and the
shipping cost as the qty is much.and here is address for you to the
shipping cost via ups or fed ex.and please kindly get back to me if
this items is in stock because i do not want any delay on this.

XXX XXXXXXX Street
XXX XXXXXXX
AUSTRALIA
Phone:  XX XXX XXXX

Do this on time so that i can be able to give you my credit card
information and complete my order for me Best Regards Paul Stuggart

Again, this is typical of these scam artists. They will tell you they want to place orders that are much larger than the typical order, and want to discuss shipping options with you.

Also note the urgency he tries to inject into the transaction by saying he does not want any delay on this. The less time potential victims spend thinking about things like this, the more likely they are to become victims.

I have removed the address and telephone information that this scam artist used since it was the address of an actual business in Australia who I was able to track down through the internet and contact via e-mail.

The owner of the legitimate business that is at that address has been having problems with scam artists using their address.

There was some indication that the scammers may make their money on the shipping costs, although I did not get the full details of how they operate.

There are many types of scam artists out there, but there are usually numerous clues in their messages that reveal their true intent. Be alert for these signs and you will likely avoid becoming a victim of these criminals.

Comments

Comment from Amanda
Posted: November 6, 2008 at 4:27 pm

We received an email from this person, and I was surprised at the request and so did a search, which turned up this article. Thank you.

Comment from Admin
Posted: November 6, 2008 at 5:13 pm

You are quite welcome.

Always glad to hear that someone benefited from this information.

Comment from ashley
Posted: November 10, 2008 at 3:25 pm

I ALSO received an email from this person. Very strange. Thanks for the heads up.

Comment from Cheryl
Posted: November 11, 2008 at 3:18 pm

I received this email from a person identifying himself as Paul Stuggart and I too was very surprised by his request for a ‘rush’ order, so I googled his name and turned up this article. Thank you. I know now that he is a scam artist.

Comment from Admin
Posted: November 11, 2008 at 3:50 pm

Thanks for stopping by and commenting, Cheryl.

I always love to hear that I may have helped prevent someone from being a victim of these scam artists.

Comment from Monica
Posted: November 11, 2008 at 3:58 pm

Thanks. I, too, received this email today. As well as another one by “Collin Oakley”:

hello sales
i would like to order some product from your store to mine in australia .so let me know if can ship down to australia so that i can email you the product i am interested in.also payment will be done via credit card details if you do accept that let me know so that i can place my order and the Items will be picked Up by my shipping Company at you store , please Get back to me so that i can email you the items i am interested .Collin oakley

Comment from “Jane Smith”
Posted: November 28, 2008 at 6:15 pm

Collin Oakley is a busy guy:

http://www.scamorama.com/rayburn_long.html

Comment from greg
Posted: November 30, 2008 at 9:12 am

hi i also reseved MAIL ORDER from this guy to wanting 10 qty
im so glad i looked his this site up nd came up this site saying its a scam . i got scamed 4x dumby huh but they sent me 5 checks in the mail 1 from turkey and 1 from canada but address was from texas and 1 from gahnna africa all checks amount to total over 5000 dollars THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME KNOW THIS

Comment from greg
Posted: November 30, 2008 at 9:15 am

WATCH OUT HE’S PERSITANT

Comment from greg
Posted: November 30, 2008 at 9:21 am

THIS IS WHAT THIS GUY SENT ME .

Good to read from you i wan to know i have a shipper that is shipping down all my orders abroad down here,he will only pick up my order from your address along,and it is costing me less.I want to order :’The Pelican-1′ qty::10Get back to me with the total for this order and when the agent should come for the pick up form your address.Warmest ReagrdsPaul Stuggart
Very well then i can arrange for the pick up of my order from your
address ,do let me know if to proceed with my order.
Thank you reply soonest.
Paul Stuggart

Comment from Mike Walker
Posted: December 4, 2008 at 4:53 am

I have just received exactly the same e-mail , I beleive the scam is for the scammer to pay in excess of the greed amount ‘accidently’ then get you to refund the balance to the ‘shipping agaent’. The original payment then gets cancelled (or the cheque bounces) and the ‘shipping agent’ keeps the money you have sent. If anyone has any better idea I would be interested to hear.

Comment from Admin
Posted: December 4, 2008 at 8:16 am

That certainly sounds like a reasonable theory to me. I have heard of other scams that involve over-payment as you describe, so I’d have no trouble believing that you are quite correct.

Comment from Maria
Posted: December 12, 2008 at 1:59 am

I received an inquiry from this person using the e-address (paul stuggart ) with exactly the same wording on November 10.
Thank you!

Comment from Alberta Sequeira
Posted: December 14, 2008 at 6:44 pm

I’ve joined the crowd of people getting emails from Paul Stuggart. I couldn’t imagine someone wanting 70 items from me and not wanting to purchase the items through PayPal. He said he had no idea how to use the credit card! Then he would have someone pick the item up. I don’t believe in giving him my address.
I went on line and keyed in his address and his name popped up. I’m so glad I held back.
Thanks for putting a notice up on this man and their friends

Comment from Gary Kaloostian
Posted: January 8, 2009 at 3:57 pm

I feel like a fool. Collin Oakley also sent me a list of things he wanted from my website and then he went on about his shipper etc..
I did not send anything to him yet but I was just about to and then I saw this site when I googled him. I thank each of you for being so honest and explaining this. Thanks!
Gary Kaloostian

Comment from Guest
Posted: January 11, 2009 at 7:48 am

Here’s another version of this b.s. scam:

Hello, I want to place an order in your store,Let me know if you ship to Australia method of payment will be credit card,I will be very glad if you can assist me with the order, I will await your prompt response as soon as you received this mail,I will be happy if you treat this email with good concern Warmest Regards Richard Howard

Followed by:

Hello,
You dont have to bother about fedex,i will arrange for my shipping
agent to come for the pickup of my order in your store.
please let me know if to continue with my order.
Awaiting your swift reply.
Richard Howard

Comment from Admin
Posted: January 11, 2009 at 2:24 pm

And here’s another one that arrived yesterday from the same lowlife or a copycat:

—– Original Message —–
From: “MARK DEREK”
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: Order au

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:33:30 -0800 (PST)

Hello Good day,
I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship directly to Australia, I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept
the payment type I indicated. Kindly return this email with your Website. I await your quick response.
Kind Regards.
MARK DEREK & CO
393 Invermay Road, Invermay,
TAS, 7248
AUSTRALIA
TEL:+61 345 609 420
FAX:+61 243 636 801
Email:mark.derek007@gmail.com

Comment from greg
Posted: January 24, 2009 at 2:41 pm

I received this very exact email last week from Australia. There were 2 email addresses in our exchanges, mark.derek and jasper.grant007@gmail.com. I thought this looked suspicious when an Aussie didn’t have a very good grasp of the english language.

Comment from peter
Posted: February 9, 2009 at 4:35 am

I have tried to give another example of such a mail that I received but the site gives me,

Hmmm, your comment seems a bit spammy. We’re not real big on spam around here.

Please go back and try again.

I have been getting from BOB CASTRO.

P.

Comment from Admin
Posted: February 9, 2009 at 7:48 am

Yeah, I can see how that would happen since the anti-spam methods used on this blog are spotting the e-mail message you are trying to post as spam.

Unfortunately, without anti-spam measures, this blog would be bombarded with it.

Thanks for passing on the info regarding the spam sent by someone who is calling himself “Bob Castro.”

Comment from Matt
Posted: February 13, 2009 at 1:37 pm

I just got a very harsh talk from my boss about my response to an email just like this one, I just printed out this article in my defense. Whenever I get these emails I usually send back a “smart” reply and my boss was checking my responses….fun. I will let him see this. Thanks

Comment from Baljinder
Posted: March 12, 2009 at 11:55 am

I received a message from Collin Oakley this morning wanting to buy products from my website. I knew it was a scam the moment I saw it. I googled his name and came to this site and thankfully so. I can’t believe the nerve of some people, they obviously have too much time on their hands to be scamming other people.

Comment from gareth
Posted: March 24, 2009 at 6:29 am

thanks. I received an email from this human and was dubious to his intent and when I googled him your site confirmed my concerns. Thankfully I do not ship outside of Western Europe anyway but I think I will be extra vigilant for this slightly less incompetent scammers.

Comment from John
Posted: March 30, 2009 at 4:27 am

He is still active and just tried to place an order with my store on 29th March 2009. This time he says he is from Germany, does not want to pay via PayPal as he has had bad experience with them. He says he will pay directly by credit card and someone will collect the stuff.
For what it is worth the mail came out of a USA ISP.

Comment from Lindsay
Posted: April 2, 2009 at 6:18 pm

I can’t believe this guy is STILL sending out emails using the same name and same email address! We just got one this week. Thanks VERY MUCH for helping us expose him.

Comment from David
Posted: June 30, 2009 at 7:33 pm

I recently received emails asking to purchase stuff from our “store/company” by credit card. One letter asked for stuff that we don’t remotely make, another was completely generic, and showed no sign that they knew our product.

Clearly, it was some kind of scam, but I couldn’t figure the angle. Obviously they were using stolen credit cards, but out stuff isn’t something that can be readily re-sold, so I couldn’t figure out how they would get their money.

To find out I played along with one. For everyone’s Googling pleasure, the name the scammer was using was:

Kenny Moore of KD Investments. Email: k_dinvestments@hotmail.com

Here’s how the scam works: after I reply to the initial contact he checks our site and tells me some random list of our stuff that he wants to buy and have shipped to Korea. Then he says that he wants me to use a certain shipper. the “shippers” info is

Eddy Young Blue Sky freight and Logistics email: blueskyfreight@gmail.com

At this point the scam is obvious. I am going to be asked to pay this “shipper” for his services, and I charge it all to the stolen credit card. So I get to be a victim AND and accomplice. Yea!!!

One humorous aspect of this scam is the address that he wants me to ship the stuff to:

60-1 Panpo-Dong Seocho-Gu
Seoul 137 700
Republic of Korea (South)

That is the address of the National Library of Korea. What a genius.

I was curious about his real location, so I convinced him to look at an obscure page on our website in clarifying his “order”. A quick check of the logs shows he is connecting from…. Nigeria. What a surprise. For those interested, his IP address is 196.3.183.73

I still have this piece of **** on the line, thinking that I am cluelessly going along with him. I am going to play him in two ways:

1.) The “shipper” will need to prepare a number of specialized documents (end use certificates, commerical invoices, etc.) for me before I send the payment. (which of course I will never do). I also expect that he will need to mail originals to me for signature, since these are high-tech export-controlled products. Of course the goal here is to think of things that take me 30 seconds to ask for, and take an hour or more for him to do.

2.) While all this is going on, I get the credit card info from the “customer”. I immediately report it stolen to the issuing bank, and tell the “Customer” that it was declined and ask for another. (this won’t surprise them, as they are working from dumps of stolen card info) I’m guessing that I can get several numbers and have them cancelled before he catches on. This actually hurts them, since they pay real money for the dumps.

I’m allowing myself 60 minutes of time-wasting on this project. More than I really should, but I am thinking of it as my way of giving something back to the community.

Comment from Admin
Posted: July 1, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Nice work, David! Very interesting to hear the details of how these guys are working their scams.

Thanks for sharing that.

Comment from Letha
Posted: December 8, 2009 at 5:03 pm

“HE-SHE-THEY” are still in business. Now under the name of Mellisa Jones, exact wording of the Australian letter. I’ve had numerous emails that I simply deleted. Now I’ve answered, and am into the ‘this is what I want to order’ phase. Wish I could string them through the above process to scam them out of a few cards… but I doubt I’ll take it that far. My best to all.

Comment from Bruce
Posted: December 9, 2009 at 10:52 am

Yeah, in my case it seemed pretty obvious. I’m an artist and usually people comment on what they want or what they liked.

THANKS.

Here it is:

Hello,

I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship directly to AUSTRALIA , I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated.

Kindly return this email with your price list of your products..

I await your quick response.

Kind Regards
Bryan James

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, non-public, and confidential to Bryan James Supply Pty Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete this message immediately.

Comment from Bruce
Posted: December 9, 2009 at 10:53 am

the e-mail

bryanjamessupplyltd@gmail.com

Comment from Karl Kuenning
Posted: December 13, 2009 at 11:39 am

I got the Byron James email asking for prices which I provided. Then I got this email ordering large qualities of the items I listed including 48 copies of my book (hey it’s a good book but 48 copies??) “here is what I would like to order for…” who talks that way?

Hello Karl,

Thank for your email,I would like to proceed with my order via email and i want you to know that i came across your company/store information via internet search and here is what i will like to order for,

Item # :Roadie – A True Story
Price:$17.00
Qty:48 pieces

Item # :stickers
Price:$1.00
Qty:72 pieces

Item # :Item #: laminate passes
Price:$5.00
Qty:36 pieces

I will like you to get back to me with the total cost and the shipping cost.and here is address for you to the shipping cost via ups or fedex or any other alternative shipping company.and please kindly get back to me if this items is in stock because i do not want any delay on this.

Do this on time so that i can be able to give you my credit card information and complete my order for me.

Best Regards,
Bryan James

Shipping Address:
Bryan James Int Australia Pty Ltd.
Level 37, 100 Miller Street.
North Sydney.
Australia.
NSW 2028
Reply to:bryanjamessupplyltd@gmail.com

Comment from Dirk
Posted: December 23, 2009 at 11:57 am

Thanks all for warning!
The guy Bryan James is still around and I am curious to learn whether David kept him busy enough 🙂

Thanks again and have a good christmas!
Dirk

Comment from Koen
Posted: January 3, 2010 at 3:33 am

Also thanks for sharing. This guy -Bryan James- is still operating in 2010: I just received his message on January 3rd 2010. I’m living in the Netherlands, so he is operating all around the globe. Of course I didn’t trust his e-mail, but one is always curious as a European manufacturer to sell his products down under, but I checked the Internet first. Luckily I found this website. Many thanks!

Koen

Comment from Bedrich Pola
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 11:23 am

Thank you for information on this page. This was very helpful for me.

Currently, I exchange e-mails with “Bryan James”. Although I repeat him that we do not accept credit cards, he still insists on sending the credit card data. The shipping to Australia should be made through the UK agent which I should pay by Western Union. So, in my opinion, he wants us to charge the credit card which data are stolen and send part of this amount to an almost anonymous person in the UK… He behaves like relatively serious, rather silly customer with a little strange behaviour, which we, in Europe, can suppose acceptable at person from opposite side of the world. 😉

Comment from Bedrich Pola
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 11:26 am

I was right, read here:

http://www.slack.com/scam.html

Comment from Bulle
Posted: March 3, 2010 at 9:27 am

New name – same story!

Hello,

I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if
you can ship directly to AUSTRALIA , I also want you to know my mode of
payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship to
that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated.

Kindly return this email with your price list of your products..

I await your quick response.

Kind Regards
Jim Rogger

Comment from Claire
Posted: March 11, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Same thing from Jim Rogger today, last week it was a chap called Bob Smith.

Hi,

I want to place an order in your store,and i will like to know if you ship to Australia and my method of payment will be credit card.so please let me know if you can assist me with the order ,And please do not forget to include your web page in your replying back to my mail.

I will await your prompt response as soon as you receive this mail,i will be very glad if you treat this email with good concern…

Best Regards

Bob Smith

Buckles – Smith LTD
122 Miller St North Sydney
NSW 2060, Australia
Telephone: 61 3 95833387
Fax: 61 3 9585 0509

Comment from alex ong
Posted: March 20, 2010 at 3:18 am

I got the Jim Rogger email and it was in my junk mail folder so immediately had some suspicions. However, what got me was that it was sent to my personal hotmail account and not my company email address that is listed on my company website. also, i actually have a friend in Australia that has one of my products so I was thinking there could be a connection. I decided to google and thanks to this site, I don’t have to bother my friend with a question about this Jim Rogger.

Comment from Claire
Posted: March 21, 2010 at 10:48 am

yes, beware of jim rogger! also, beware of these other scammers:

michael williams, “ceo” of willi, inc in malaysia

kel stores/kelvin hound in australia (mrs. blaine washington, purchasing agent)

roland kevin in australia

Comment from Lisa
Posted: March 25, 2010 at 8:42 am

Hi,

I have been looking for a job and posted my resume on several sites. I found that someone from Australia using the e-mail address mark.grant007@gmail.com wanted a personal assistant. I was wondering if it was the same person. Here is the e=mail. Maybe I’m being paranoid or maybe I’m not. Can I get some help please?

Dear applicant,
This is to update you that we received your email in regards to my posting for A Personal Assistant . I am looking for someone who can act as my PA and Errand messenger,Someone who can handle my personal and business errands at his/her spare time.This duties required of you will be needed basically during the weekends and this will give you free time to go on with your regular job .Below are details of what you expected from this job position.

Someone who can offer me these services:
*****************************************
Mail services: Receive my mails and drop them off at UPS (nothing illegal) Shop for Gifts,Bill payment ( pay my bills on my behalf),Sit for delivery( at your home) or pick items up at nearby post office at your convenience. Let me know if you will be able to offer me any/all of these services

Where are you located?
I would love to meet up with you to talk about this job but I am currently away on vacation with my family in London and soon we would be going to France and maybe African continent because of my little daughter love for wild animals and the safari wild life and family addiction to tourism.

MORE DETAILS :
***************
I own a new art gallery in Australia which just started operations and sales and i am sourcing to buy more art works from professional painters and artist within the Untied Kingdom.This is where you come in. I am willing to pay you in advance to do my artworks and paintings shopping’s for me,make payments for them and have them delivered to you. I will also have my mails and packages forwarded to your address.. If you will be unable to stay at your house to get my mails, I can have it shipped to a post office near you and then you can pick it up at your convenience. When you get my mails/packages; you are required to mail them to where I want them mailed to. You don’t have to put money out of your pocket, all you have to do is have packages shipped to your house and do my shopping.. You are allowed to open the packages to reveal its content. The content of the packages are art works,paintings,computer and electronics, clothing’s business and personal letters. All expenses and taxes will be covered by me. You will work only on Saturdays. How much will you charge per week? I am willing to pay $250.00. That is not a bad offer is it?
I need your service instantly because I am constantly out of town. I will return to Washington in April 2010 so this process will be on going till then. If you don’t mind, I will meet up with you when I return and then we can talk about the possibility of making this long term though i will still get in touch with you via phone soon as we have an agreement and you start work. Well, let me know if you are able to handle the position. Hope to hear I will email you the list and pictures of what to shop for when I am ready. No heavy packages is involved! You can do the shopping at any nearest stores. You will be shopping for this festive season for some gifts,Electronics and clothing’s.
I will provide you my personal UPS account number for Shipping. All you have to do is provide my account number to UPS and shipping charges will be applied into the account. I will provide clear set of instructions for each task I need done as well the funds to cover them. If I were to mail you money in form of cashiers check or money orders to do my shopping plus upfront payment for your service, where would you want it mailed to? How should your name appear on the money?

Provide me with the following details below :-

Full Name:
Full Address: (NO P.O.BOX)
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Email:

I will be expecting your responds towards my request. Hope to read from you as soon as possible.Thanks for your co-operation and understanding.

Best Regards.
Brown Carter
God Bless You.

Comment from Robi
Posted: April 13, 2010 at 6:45 pm

Today I received an e-mail from Jim Rogger – thank you for your warning!
Regards from Poland 🙂

Comment from Sharon
Posted: April 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm

From: Robert Dobrow [mailto:dobrowptyltd@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:52 AM
Subject: Email Order

Hello Good day,

I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship directly to Australia, I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated. Kindly return this email with your Website. I await your quick response.

Kind Regards.
Robert Dobrow

Comment from Joanne
Posted: May 8, 2010 at 3:14 pm

Thanks for the warnings- I received this email from Robert Dobrow on 8th May 2010…..

Hello Good day,
I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know
if you can ship directly to Australia, I also want you to know my mode of
payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship
to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated.
Kindly return this email with your Website. I await your quick response.

Kind Regards.
Robert Dobro

Comment from Anna
Posted: June 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm

dobrowptyltd@gmail.com aka Robert Dobrow from Australia has been emailing me for the past few weeks (May 21-June 1, 2010)

The wording is all the same as those copied above.

Comment from Linda
Posted: June 8, 2010 at 11:26 am

At 7:43 pm on Monday 7 June, my web designer sent a message telling me my new website is up and running. The reason I haven’t put the name above is that we haven’t added it to the site yet. At this stage, it’s still just a generic alpha-numeric URL.

Interestingly, I got a “Bob Smith, Australia” email, as above, time-stamped 7:03 pm. Makes me suspect these scammers have some sort of web crawler that pounces on new business websites. Very clever, since a newbie would get all excited about their first order being international.

Instinct told me to google him, and I found you. Thanks for being here.

Comment from Robert
Posted: June 8, 2010 at 3:46 pm

My email has been hijacked by “Bob Smith” so I’m getting responses to these bogus order inquiries plus all the returned mail. Isn’t there some way to find out who initiated these and stop them? I had asked my hosting provider and they said there wasn’t anything they could do.

Comment from admin
Posted: June 8, 2010 at 3:52 pm

That’s a tough one. It’s always been pretty easy to hijack someone else’s e-mail address. It happens to me from time to time.

I wish I had a good suggestion, but I really don’t know how you could track the impostor down. Spammers and other online crooks are quite good at hiding, and are often using resources that they don’t own to send out their garbage, so it can be very hard to trace back to the person that actually sent the e-mail.

Comment from Jeff
Posted: September 8, 2010 at 11:38 am

Collin Oakley has resurfaced and is working the Australia scam again.
Thanks for the “heads up”.

Comment from Simon
Posted: November 30, 2010 at 9:09 am

Our company received this from Collin Oakley, it seems they do not use shipping any more, thanks for the heads up

Hello,

Apologies for not getting back to you immediatelyl, I would like to proceed with my order via email, here is what I will like to order to My store

1, Golf Gift Certificate
QTY 30

I will like you to get back to me with the total cost of the order and please do not include the Shipping Cost because the items will be picked up by our shipping Agent .kindly get Back to me if this items is in stock because I do not want any delay on this.

Regards

Comment from Dean
Posted: February 14, 2011 at 6:14 am

Hi,

We just received an email from this guy, too. Looks like he is still operating! Thanks for the warning.

Comment from Tammy
Posted: February 15, 2011 at 6:57 am

My turn….this Bryan James is still in action….recieved his same email that looks like he’s been sending the last couple years or more…what raised alarm bells is that he sent it to my personal email (which is concerning) as my products are under a business email! Still trying to figure out how he got that. But he also didn’t send me his intentions of what he wanted to order only would I accept credit card payment and send him my price list. I replied via my business, with specifics like what did he want, how many, how quickly, where to ship to and that cc payment would only be accepted via paypal. I’ve not heard back from him. His email hasn’t changed but here it is for information;

From: Bryan James
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:43:49 AM
Subject: Credit Card Order To North Sydney Australia

Hello,
I am interested in purchasing some of your products, I will like to know if you can ship directly to AUSTRALIA , I also want you to know my mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to me if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type I indicated.
Kindly return this email with your price list of your products..
I await your quick response.
Kind Regards
Bryan James

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, non-public, and confidential to Bryan James Supply Pty Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete this message immediately.

When I looked this guy up online, it directed me to this page where I saw other notices about him! Lucky me.

Comment from admin
Posted: February 15, 2011 at 9:19 am

It’s quite easy for spammers and scammers to wind up with your e-mail address I’m afraid.

If it’s an “obvious” name like “janeb@yahoo.ca” or even initials like “jlb@yahoo.ca” or just about anything else that makes sense to use as an e-mail address, the spammers can easily run dictionary-style scripts that automatically try sending numerous variations of e-mail usernames against e-mail providers (Yahoo, Gmail, Comcast, etc.) to see which ones return a “bounce” response and which ones have been successfully delivered to. This gives them a list of active e-mail addresses to work with.

However, don’t feel that you are safe even if you use an e-mail address such as “d7x29ffhwc17ddx@yahoo.ca,” which would have a much higher likelihood of keeping your address safe from a dictionary attack. The problem is that if you use that address to send an e-mail to anyone, it becomes vulnerable as soon as you click on “Send.”

Another more insidious method (in addition to others, I fear) they utilize to get your e-mail is through malware programs (the stuff we used to refer to generically as a “virus”) which will infect the computer of someone who has received e-mail from you and harvest all the addresses of people they have received from. The harvested list of addresses is then sent back to the spammer or perhaps someone who makes a living selling valid e-mail addresses to spammers. This goes on without the knowledge of the victim since the malware is designed to hide itself quite well from all but those who are quite computer savvy. Even the latest anti-malware programs are not a guarantee that you will be protected from e-mail harvesters.

The unfortunate bottom line is that if you use an e-mail address, it’s likely to fall into the hands of the spammers sooner or later. Happens to me all the time and I suspect it will continue to happen until just about every internet user has enough sense to refrain from doing business with spammers. If spamming were not profitable, it would likely grind to a stop.

Comment from Sun Trigg
Posted: February 20, 2011 at 7:04 pm

I receive the same email recently. Thanks for alerting about this scammed artist.

However, I cannot agree about using personal address as the reason that you’re being scam.

Please check first all enquries before straight away throws it into a bin.
You might miss some good opportunity here.

I use my personal email to make enquires all the time rather my business address.
There no reason behind it, it is just my personal choice.

Good Luck,

Cheers,

Sun Trigg
Lauden chocolate

Comment from Teresa
Posted: February 21, 2011 at 9:01 am

Just to let you know i received this from the one Bryan James, i did respond at first but then after his reply alarm bells started to ring.
Thanks to you i have deleated everything from him,

Thank for your email,I would like to proceed with my order via email and
i want you to know that i came across your store information via Google
and here is what i will like to order for:
…..
Please don’t worry about shipping cost.I have a shipping agent in the
SPAIN that will come for the pickup of the package in your location and
i have notify them about this and they told me the best way for them is
to come for the pickup in your location and is for you to email me with
the information needed below so that they can estimate the actual
freight quote of the package.

* Your Company Name and Address ?
* Date and time the package will be ready for pickup at your location?
* Contact Person for the pickup arrangement ?
* Telephone Number ?
* Weight of the package and how many boxes are they ?
* Total cost without the freight charges?

Kindly get back to me with this detailed info so i can forward my credit
card details to you for the payment Asap!

Hope someone catches him soon
Teresa

Comment from John
Posted: March 15, 2011 at 11:54 pm

SAME THING WITH ME, EXCEPT SENDER WAS ONE ROBERT DOBROW FROM NEW ZEALAND, BUT OTHERWISE SAME MO (TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS): I DID NOT REPLY (obviously).

Hello,
We interested in purchasing some of your products, we will like to know if you can ship directly to New Zealand, we also want you to know our mode of payment for this order is via Credit Card. Get back to us if you can ship to that destination and also if you accept the payment type we indicated.Kindly return this email with your Website. we await your quick response.
Kind Regards.
Robert Dobrow

Comment from Deanne
Posted: April 28, 2011 at 7:17 pm

We’ve just had the Robert Dobrow from New Zealand version. Similar to everyone else it was immediately obvious it was a scam because we clearly state we ship world wide and as we sell second-hand children’s books the list of what we have and prices are clearly on our website. Thanks for explaining how the scam works though as that is what was puzzling.

The other one I have had over the years (variation on a theme) was a group of businessmen wanting to book accommodation for 10 days with all sorts of add-ons but clearly never having read the website regarding what we offered (this was for a tourism business I ran). The second variation is a group of businessmen, oil rig workers etc wanting to book dance classes for two weeks, pay in advance any type of dance ie ballet, ballroom etc (we run a bellydance school and I can’t imagine the saudi oil workers belly dancing really!) Any ideas on how this scam works?

Comment from Jon
Posted: May 3, 2011 at 3:07 am

Robert Dobrow hits in Sweden this time. Thanx for verifying My gut feeling about this guy! All the best to you all!

Comment from Christopher
Posted: May 7, 2011 at 8:01 am

Yepp. This Robert Dobrow mailed us now. Clearly a scam as we have all the information he wants clearly stated on our website.
Good work everybody! Keep posting!

Comment from Peter
Posted: May 20, 2011 at 4:01 am

We got a mail from them/him/it this morning, googled the name and found this, thanks.
It’s slightly more plausible than most, I think Bob Dobrow must be getting desperate for the goods by now.
The nature of what we do meant that I didn’t need to live in Baker Street to work out that somebody in NZ wouldn’t want a kitchen supplied from the UK.

Biz is a little slow at the mo, I wondered whether it might be worth stringing the scuzz along for a bit but how many other chancers would get my address as soon as they got a hit? Life’s too short.

Comment from Jeff Volk
Posted: May 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

A business colleague unfortunately fwded my info to “Paul Dobrow” who contacted me with the same request he sent to my colleague.
Unusually sized order, private courier will pick up, lots of red flags.
Searched the company name and came across your article. I wouldn’t have accepted an order from him w/o wiring funds in advance, but thanks for confirming my suspicions and for saving me the trouble! JV

Comment from david
Posted: June 3, 2011 at 4:39 pm

I found this blog post as a result of the boiler plate text in his email. It started with this:
——————————-
From: Jim Rogger Jim Rogger [mailto:jimroggerptylimited@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri 03-Jun-11 1:51 PM
To: ….
Subject: Re: Mail Order To Australia!!

Hello,

Can you Provide me with an attachment of your product price list available on your shelf now and the link to your website product catalog then i can get back at you with the item and quantity needed.
——————————-
We then replied to him that all our items are on the website and to email quanities of re-sell items he may want. He then responds with a list of really odd items and 12 of one that we’ve only sold 2 of in the past 12 months. So I know something is up. He sends back the following email:
——————————-
Thank for your email,below are the items needed and quantities.
….list of items….
Please don’t worry about shipping cost.I have a shipping agent in Madrid,SPAIN that will come for the pickup of the package in your location and i have notify them about this and they told me the best way for them is to come for the pickup in your location and is for you to email me with the information needed below so that they can estimate the actual freight quote of the package.

* Your Company Name and Address ?
* Date and time the package will be ready for pickup at your location?
* Contact Person for the pickup arrangement ?
* Telephone Number ?
* Weight of the package and how many boxes are they ?
* Total cost without the freight charges?

Kindly get back to me with this detailed info so i can forward my credit card details to you for the payment Asap!

Best Regards
Jim Rogger
——————————-
At this point it’s clear that it’s a scam and we sent him fake information to see what more we can get out of him.

Comment from Bev
Posted: June 7, 2011 at 10:47 am

I have received the same message from Jim Rogger. I was suspect right away but not sure until I found this site. Today I received “his” address:
Jim Rogger Australia Pty Ltd
Level 37, 100 Miller Street
North Sydney
Australia
NSW 2028
Phone: +64 (0) 3 348 4149
Fax: +64 (0) 3 348 4967

Comment from Mike
Posted: September 9, 2011 at 6:08 am

Still going…;

Subject: Order to France
From: John Terry
Reply-To:
johnterryincc@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:40:24 +0200
X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 94.100.20.18 (deferred)

Hi,

I want to place an order in your store,and i will like to know if you ship to France and my method of payment will be credit card.so please let me know if you can assist me with the order ,And please do not forget to include your web page in your replying back to my mail. I will await your prompt
response as soon as you receive this mail,i will be very glad if you treat this email with good concern…

Best Regards
John Terry

JOHNTERRY – INC
39, rue de Bretagne,
75003 Paris. France
Phone: 01-42-78-52-63

Comment from Steve
Posted: September 19, 2011 at 4:26 am

just got the one from John Terry …

Hey admin … why not put this at the top of this page:

Please report the gmail addresses to abuse@google.com and mail-support@google.com

I reported the above so suspect it will be terminated in next 24 hours.

… then on to the next fake name

Comment from admin
Posted: September 19, 2011 at 9:22 am

Not a bad idea, but I suspect they’ll just sign up for a new address and get back to work.

However, maybe it will make a bit more work for them so I think it’s worth doing.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Comment from Steve
Posted: September 19, 2011 at 9:34 am

Yes you are absolutely correct and they will just set up another, but each time they need to mail to their entire list.

If the remailing has to be done on a regular basis, more people will get wise to this, seeing the many repeated emails from many “fake companies”.

Hopefully they will Google it, find this site, and we have all have helped them from becoming a victim.

Thanks for starting this off.

Comment from Steve
Posted: September 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Here is the new fake company email

Hello Sales,

Greetings from Plenty Pap and Pay Ltd. Introduction, I am Fred Wilson the
founder of the above named company here in Fiji Islands. We are making
inquiry if you ship internationally but specifically to our location here in
Fiji Islands.

In addition, we would like to know if you accept credit card payment and
will be appreciated if you return to us by email with your Website or
attached wholesale price sheets.

Looking forward to your quick response.

Best of Regard
Fred Wilson
Plenty Pap and Pay Ltd
12 Main Alleyway , Savusavu, Fiji Islands
Tel. (679) 881-5091
Email: plenty.pp@gmail.com

Comment from Lisa
Posted: September 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm

I just tried to post a copy of the scam email I received from Fred Wilson at Plenty Pap and Pay, but this website wouldn’t let me post it saying it looked to be “spammy”. WTH? Oh well – no copy of the scam he sent me…You’ll just have to take my word for it.

Comment from Florin
Posted: October 5, 2011 at 4:03 am

Here is the e-mail which I have received from this guy, he try do do some money, he should work a little bit for the money :

—–Original Message—–
From: John Terry [mailto:johnterryincc@gmail.com]
Sent: 4 octombrie 2011 05:59
To: office
Subject: Order to France

Hi,

I want to place an order in your store,and i will like to know if you ship to France and my method of payment will be credit card.so please let me know if you can assist me with the order ,And please do not forget to include your web page in your replying back to my mail. I will await your prompt response as soon as you receive this mail,i will be very glad if you treat
this email with good concern…

Best Regards
John Terry

JOHNTERRY – INC
39, rue de Bretagne,
75003 Paris. France
Phone: 01-42-78-52-63

Comment from Nancy
Posted: October 31, 2011 at 1:53 pm

I fell victim to Fred Wilson of Plenty Pap and Pay and just found out today it was a scam. I feel like a total idiot. He and his fake freight forwarder “Secure Delivery” (Robert Newman of Westlake La) scammed me of $1,800.00. I own a manufacturing business and he placed several large orders payable by several different credit cards which of course were fraudulent but before I knew the cards were stolen I had already paid Robert Newman by Western Union. It all looks so obvious now and I can’t believe that I was so trusting or should I say stupid.

Comment from Melissa
Posted: March 31, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Hi,

I’m glad that I found a site like this that warned me. I am pasting the email that I just received hopefully it will help others avoid this scam. Shame on them!

Hello,

We own a retail store here in Australia and willing to purchase from you but before we proceed we want to be sure your e-mail is correct and also to confirm if you can follow our forwarder that will pick of the order at our end since they are less expensive compare to UPS,FEDEX,USPS AND DHL,Besides they are perfect in delivery to the remote area we are in AU.Payment mode will be credit card, USA BILLED Mastercard (NO PAYPAL).Confirm this e mail before we proceed to send the quote of order. please get back to us with your inventory/price list as an attachment on your reply.

Best regards,
Raymond Trading Co Inc.

Comment from Yolanda
Posted: July 10, 2012 at 11:34 pm

This person is going by the name of Paul Vans and Amy Lopez. I almost got scammed. My daughter did some research and found this site. Thanks for letting people know .

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